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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.08.23 21:20:00 -
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People can sit in 98% safety, semi afk running missions and making a fortune in isk ith no danger to themselves.
With the upcomming suicde ganke nerf it will be 99.5% safety.
This threatens the balance of the game. Level 4 missions should be either a) moved b) give less rewards or preferebly c) made a LOT harder.
Risk vs Reward
Nerf those missions.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.08.24 09:45:00 -
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CCP its time for you to follow your stated aims
BALANCE
RISK vs REWARD
And at the moment - LV 4 mission in high sec are massively out of kilter.
They are abosulutley no challange for the mission runner (except for one of two which can be instantly canceled)
Yet they pay more per hour then almost any other profession which is infinitaly more risky.
Ignore the whiners... "I will leave with my 8 accounts, its a pve game etc. They wont leave."
NERF LV 4 PAYOUTS
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.08.24 19:57:00 -
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 Originally by: oilio
Originally by: Malcanis
While we're consulting that chart, look at what happens when you split a PvP game into PvE and PvP realms.
For sure, but no-one is talking aobut splitting Eve into PvP and PvE realms.
We're talking about either changing high sec, or leaving it the SAME.
Strange that, Bears have called for succesive changes to high sec over time.
War dec nerf CHECK
Suicide gank nerf CHECK
More wardec nerf HIGH PRIOIRITY FROM CCP
All make high sec far to riskless compared to the isk you can churn in semi afking lv 4 missions.
Lv 4 missions need to be nerfed and nerfed hard. All the whiners gogin on about leaving with their 50 accounts wont leave. They never do. And CCP can rest easy knowing they have acted fairly and with an eye for balance for once
Cut the rewards drasticaly, no longer shall the bears print isk whilst half watching TV (you know you do it dont lie)
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.08.24 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ogul
Originally by: Le Skunk
Strange that, Bears have called for succesive changes to high sec over time.
War dec nerf CHECK
Your own fault, you just didn't know when to stop.
At by that marker, it will be the bear fault for over exploiting level four missions which will lead to them being nerfed.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.08.24 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: oilio
Originally by: Le Skunk
War dec nerf CHECK
Suicide gank nerf CHECK
More wardec nerf HIGH PRIOIRITY FROM CCP
Suicide gank needed some balancing.
As does level 4 missions... incoming nerf bat ?
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.08.24 23:46:00 -
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QUESTION
What risk, does a NPC corp character running lv4s have in high sec.
ANSWER
Risk of being suidice ganked = ONLY risk
 Why do you think there are hundreds of isk farmers running multiple accounts in all the major mission hubs....
Because the only way they ever die is if suicide ganked... and guess what the bears have pressurised CCP into nerfing... suicide ganking.
ITs risk free, gains masive rewards and has no place in this game if ccp truley do care about balance.
And no mission runner will leave. They all know they are overpowered - And will have grudgin respect for ccp for keeping thing balanced.
NERF LV 4s
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.08.25 08:43:00 -
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How high sec LV4 Mission Runners/Isk Printers can save 30 dollars a month
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier:_Elite_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.08.25 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 25/08/2008 10:09:38
Originally by: imouttahere
People who abused the war dec system and get their own game nerfed then cry about it should check this out. It's also pretty handy for the people who got suicide ganking nerfed by abusing the insurance system and then complained Eve was going to the Carebears.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier:_Elite_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
1) Get your own jokes
2) If you have to steal jokes, then please at least make them make sense.
The two links were selected by myself to highlight the solitary nature of the mission runner in a MULTILPLAYER game. I suggested frontier elite ii would be a better game to play (heaven knows the missions in that game were far superior to what eve offers) and of course there is no lag. The IRC would enable them to chat to their corpies.
They therefore make no sense to suggest to a PVP player, whos entire game revolves around interaction with other players in a MULTIPLAYER game (strange that)
Summary: Best you pipe down before you humiliate your forum alt even more
SKUNK
EDIT: Damn im good :)
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.08.25 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy
CCP has shown that with enough whining they will make changes. So as long as we keep whining about L4s ccp will eventually nerf them.
Im with you brother. Together we can defeat them!!!!
CCP WE DEMAND BALANCE
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.08.25 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 25/08/2008 11:48:28
Originally by: imouttahere
Solitary nature of a mission runner? What gives you the idea that people who run missions for Isk are afraid of any type of interaction with other people? Are you really that narrow minded to believe all mission runners are solo players? Are you really that much of a bigot?
No - they like to chat in corp chat as well - hence the linking of IRC. Maybe occasionally they will run a mission together BUT seeing as Lv 4's are SO EASY to complete there really is no point in running a mission with a corp mate. More reasons to nerf lv4'.
Originally by: imouttahere
If Eve continues on its current path it will be the same as Elite and there will be no PvP and no interaction. Which is why I used your link to a single player game with no PvP.
Best pipe down before you get war decs nerfed. Again.
Hmmm what a reach for meaning. More fail cake. Your stealing of my joke didn't originally make sense. Nor did your subsequent ludicrous justification of the plagiarism.
Also post with your main ya noob
LV 4 Mission Runners and bears in general need rooting out from under their high sec rock. Sure some of them will shrivel up and die. But as their chrysalis hardens and cracks in the sun, many will emerge as beautiful butterfly's. And as they are flying high in the air, they will look down on those who still cling under the rock with pity and contempt.
The same strange mix of pity and contempt all true players feel for the highsecers. Willingly caging themselves and stunting their potential.
CCP i call on you to help these poor people.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.08.26 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: TheTrueHorror
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
The moment you undock, you should be subject to player competition on all levels.
I agree with everything Digital Comunist has said. Devs should read this post carefully. The suggestions are all good and would make for a better game.
Yes Digital Communist makes good points and may well save CCP from both their spiral of self hatred and disillusionment, and the twisted legion of wormtongue bears whispering in their ears.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.08.26 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tatsujin Koufu
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Aww shucks. These are the cutest logical fallacies I've ever seen.
"But if you remove lvl 4's from empire, people will quit!"
Sorry peaches and co, the goal of any change isn't to stop people from quitting. Its to make the game better.
I'm willing to sacrifice people that don't matter for duty, honour, and lawls _o7
ARE YOU>?>?>
Thats not really a question for the players now is it? Its a question for CCP
I think making missions challenging again will actually boost mission runners enjoyment and increase sub figures.
The adrenalin rush you get when your ship is at risk, the buzz you get from devising tactics and changing them on the fly to defeat your foes. These shouldnt be the sole domain of the PVP'er. The PVE player should have access to this which is one of the main reasons eve is enjoyable to play.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.02 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion
Edited by: Exlegion on 02/09/2008 14:14:41
Originally by: Malcanis
The difference being that your post really was stupid.
I'm sure Le Skunk, DigitalCommunist, Ki An, Gamesguy, et al find your posts insightful and clever. You guys represent all that is intelligent, meaningful, and rightous on these forums. On behalf of the stupid idiotic majority of Eve and the Eve-O, I'd like to thank you for gracing us with your unquestioned wisdom and light of truth. CCP would be lost without you five whoring the forums spewing your hate towards those that play the game different from you.
Your STILL smarting about your faction raven we killed.
Dude.. it was over a year ago. You got pwned..... get over it
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.02 14:22:00 -
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Oh and dont forget to add 2 posts to my number on your stats list you keep quoting for some bizare reason.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.02 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion
Originally by: Le Skunk
Your STILL smarting about your faction raven we killed.
Dude.. it was over a year ago. You got pwned..... get over it
SKUNK
 Do you think everyone's as bitter as you? You think you can rile people up as easily as you may get riled up?
Try again.
DUDE you pulled my name out of nowhere and started trolling. I try to avoid talking to you, as Ive found you utterly one sided, and deliberately ignorant. I even didnt troll you when there was a suggestion of you standing for CSM
But you cant deny your whole game stance is based around you getting ganked though utter stupidity when the privateers wardecced you - and since that humiliation - you have undertakken to get this game pacified by any means neccesary.
Your vocal out spurts about "wardec exploits" have been strangely subdued when it comes to using alt corps to wardec yourself, or creating a ring of alt corps to hop though as soon as you get wardecced.
Your a big stinking hypocrite.
(add one to my stats please)
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.02 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion
Is this how you try and gain support? By lying? It shows that in order to sell your own ideas you have to smudge them with lies. I've lost lots of ships during my 3+ years in Eve and you bring up a loss from years ago to claim it's why I stand behind my own ideas?
Ok ill call you out - wheres the links to these pvp losses.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.02 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Exlegion
Is this how you try and gain support? By lying? It shows that in order to sell your own ideas you have to smudge them with lies. I've lost lots of ships during my 3+ years in Eve and you bring up a loss from years ago to claim it's why I stand behind my own ideas?
Ok ill call you out - wheres the links to these pvp losses.
SKUNK
Ive noticed you have ignored this ? After calling me a lier youve suddenly gone all coy?
Te remind you - I stated you getting ganked in your faction mission whoring raven in motsu whilst wardecced was such a shock to your system you have thereafter sought to pacify the game, and have trolled any threads you felt were "pirate" orientated.
You claimed to have lost "lots of ships" and say the kill has nothing to do with anything.
Battleclininc however, show you with .... 4 losses.
And the earliest loss it shows you with was.... a mission running faction raven in motsu under a wardec.
But I realise battleclinic isnt that good an indicator of pvp losses, so I asked you for a link to evidence of this pvp you supposedly engage in.
If you cant show it.... well it will pretty much look like i was right.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.02 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion
Le Skunk,
Let me talk to you in a way you can better understand, because obviously intelligently isn't one way.
You're a babbling idiot. You want to find out how many times I've lost ships look it up yourself! I don't care whether my losses appear on killboards or not. To be honest, I don't keep track. I'm not a killboard ***** either. Sue me. Suffice it to say I lost my last ship in Tamo a couple of weeks ago helping some local pirates fight off another pirate gang. Yes, I know. A little weird, but I figured it'd be fun and in the end work to my interest in the long run. Can't remember the pirate corp, but Borasu is in it. Look it up and ask them if you feel so inclined to do so.
You know, some of us don't have to lie to make a point. Unfortunately, you make a habit out of it and it's just such a waste of your time and mine.
So without evidence to the contrary, and due to you "not keeping track" or of any losses, we have battleclinic being our sole source of evidence.
We are to presume that your mission running faction raven WAS your first pvp loss of significance.
I remember the first big loss I had in - some guy called eddiee something that blew up my iteron. I was hauling tobacco and was astounded that the sentry guns didnt kill him. I remember swearing revenge.
Of course then I got seriously into pvp, and it lost it relevance.
It is reasonable, given what we know of pvp in this game - that your first ganking did have an effect on you - your subsequent avoidance of pvp helped it keep its relevance- and sent you to the forums to troll any "pirate" thread you can find. Including the two your currently trolling now.
TLDR: Im not a lier, I have given evidence. You have none. Your a troll. Pipe down.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.03 09:38:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/09/2008 09:41:24
Originally by: Mara Rinn
Can you please explain why the lack of insurance payout will stop people suicide ganking valuable targets?
Assuming no insurance payout for concorded ships.
It took around 15 torp ravens to pop a freighter in a 0.5 (obelisk highest hit points, slave set, in gang, 5% hull mod, assuming 3 volleys of torps get off)
Now concord have been buffed so your looking at (depending on the sec status of the system) anywhere between 25 and 45 torp ravens. (working on the principle you are gogin to get max 2 and possibly only 1 volley off)
So the cost (at 120million per raven (t2 bcus, arbelest sieges, t1 midslots) leaves costs for ganking a freighter at somewhere between 3 - 5 billion isk.
Ok, now from experience, you are looking at perhaps 35% of the loot surviving. So to cover the costs, a hit would have to be carrying maybe 13 billion isk of cargo.
Thats to break even
Trust me - its incredibly rare to see that amount of isk in a freighter. From experience you would be scanning for... maybe 30 hours to see one.
So thats 25+ guys hanging around for 30 hours. A good 750 man hours.
To break even.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.03 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/09/2008 10:46:16
Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/09/2008 10:46:01
Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum
Originally by: Haakelen
I can't wait until some carebear space game shithole comes out, so mongoloids like that guy can get the **** out and stop ****ing up Eve.
More personal attacks- Calling a person 'mongoloid'
I believe the modern term is "Downy"
My mistake. I was reporting the guy and it made a post by mistake. 
Oh gawd its the thought police
Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum
lol. A casual PvPer such as yourself (60 kills in 10 months in) would probably be best playing 'Aero fighters'. Try it.
That looks suspiciosuly like a troll. REPORT HIM EVERYONE HES A NAUGHTY WAUGHTY HE BWOKE THE WULES
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.03 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/09/2008 10:52:04
Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum
No. I'm one of those people who abides by the forum rules. Personal attacks/name calling are not permitted. If someone disagrees with another they should follow the forum rules. If they can't then I will report them. All of them. I thought someone like you, who has 10x more forum posts than kills, would know that.
No your not - your a snidey little hypocrite. By all means play the role of "indignant from Rotheram" but make damn sure your not at it yourself.
Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum
lol. A casual PvPer such as yourself (60 kills in 10 months in) would probably be best playing 'Aero fighters'. Try it.
RULES:
# Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the members of the forum community. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not convey a friendly attitude.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.03 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum
So report me for reccomending a game to someone who was looking for a sci fi PvP game more suited to casual PvPers. 
Says the guy with.... zero kills? 
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.03 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum
So report me for reccomending a game to someone who was looking for a sci fi PvP game more suited to casual PvPers.
Says the guy with.... zero kills?
SKUNK
Does suiciding ones own credibility generate a killmail? If so, he should have at least one.
Its the standard dance.
A) Your shit because you have only 40 killmails
b) Well following that logic, your utter shit as you have no killmails
A) DUR! Im posting with an alt stupid - I dont want repercusions on my leet pvp main.
b) Yes I know that - I said the thing about no killmails to get you to state you are posting with an alt because you are a coward. Why are you worried about me coming to pvp your leet pvp main if he has lots of kills.
A) Im actually a miner and have no kills
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.03 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Call'Da Poleece
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Hurrum Hurrum
So report me for reccomending a game to someone who was looking for a sci fi PvP game more suited to casual PvPers.
Says the guy with.... zero kills?
SKUNK
Does suiciding ones own credibility generate a killmail? If so, he should have at least one.
Its the standard dance.
A) Your shit because you have only 40 killmails
b) Well following that logic, your utter shit as you have no killmails
A) DUR! Im posting with an alt stupid - I dont want repercusions on my leet pvp main.
b) Yes I know that - I said the thing about no killmails to get you to state you are posting with an alt because you are a coward. Why are you worried about me coming to pvp your leet pvp main if he has lots of kills.
A) Im actually a miner and have no kills
SKUNK
A true whorum at work folks ... its got it all, conclusions well and truely jumped, insults and lack of any real data/information.
And yes you wont find any kills for me because I am either an alt, or a main thats a cowardly miner. We all know what you will pick
Well, Im perfectly happy for Hurrum to post with his main and I will reasess my post.
Experience show that I dont think this will happen
As for you, well initial assement
- You dont have a ! as a portrait (so not a new rolled troll alt)
- You have an alt sounding name
- You dont have a corp ticker showing - so probable not a COAD troll.
- You bought a GTC early in your existance (alt)
Until I get into game - i cannot check your corp/other details.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.03 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/09/2008 15:45:19
Originally by: Call'Da Poleece
Assessing peoples arguments based on their alt status is daft, especially in game where 2/3's of the characters in it are alts.
And obviously because I am not posting with my main I must be a carebear. Such is the proclimation of the mighty no risk high sec gankers, I must not post again! ... or should I just keep on doing it to annoy them... decisions decisions
You can draw a lot of information from you posting with an alt yes.
You dont want the drivel you come out with to be attatched to your main.
Why?
Because you fear your main or your mains corp will suffer repercussions for what you say. You are scared i will come and pop you, or wardec you.
Which ive never done. Anyone who posts with their main (or posts with an alt and clearly indicates who their main is if the account is down for example) deserves enough respect to not come gunning for them for chatting on a forum.
Its the reason I havent popped idiots like ExLegion for example.
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Le Skunk
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 06/09/2008 18:12:58
Originally by: Roshan longshot
But I can max AB out to 100k with a raven and have a couple of dozen missles in the air...with out being touched by a mission rat...
No the Raven has a big red "Easy" button...It always had one...and has never been 'balanced' to match the other races...not like it should have been. Missles got nerfed, yeah. But 45 days of training is all it takes to get back the easy button, or close to how it was before the nerf.
Indeed the hordes of untouched *non specific place of birth* 2 month old isk farmers with stupid names, you see mass undocking and churning through mission 23-7 in all the mission hubs are not flying CNR's because they like to look pimp.
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